tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-826637739916486721.post6136176454724200846..comments2023-09-19T06:58:49.690-07:00Comments on VanEast Beer Blog: The Sh*t Has Hit the FanPaddy Treavorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16360223916204727525noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-826637739916486721.post-15442770695047567152012-07-18T01:00:30.801-07:002012-07-18T01:00:30.801-07:00The LDB is not only poorly run but has a severe co...The LDB is not only poorly run but has a severe conflict of interests being the wholesaler, distributor, and retailer and frequently abuses that position by ring-fencing products at times of demand, preventing the private liquor stores from buying them, as well as moving products already on order for private liquor stores away from their back-orders and moving them into their own stores when it suits them. <br />On the other hand we do not want a private monopoly either - why can`t those douches in the BC Liberal party realise that a private monopoly is just as bad as a public one?<br /><br />as @imoe suggests we need multiple wholesalers and distributors competing for the business of importers as is the case in much of the western world. Retailers should also be able to have bonded warehouses for elements of their own distribution and importing for their own stores (as it is in most of Europe and works just fine!)<br /><br />Monopolies do not work whether public or private.The Beer Wranglerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02304982005390021729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-826637739916486721.post-23195259991949783082012-07-14T18:33:40.088-07:002012-07-14T18:33:40.088-07:00@lmoe Your Free Market system is a fantasy. It doe...@lmoe Your Free Market system is a fantasy. It doesn't exist in real life. You completely open the market up with no regulation, those with political and financial advantage will eventually dominate. Then, you have oligarchy, or worse, fascism. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-826637739916486721.post-16670659326454240002012-07-14T15:57:15.560-07:002012-07-14T15:57:15.560-07:00Great post. And I agree with lmoe. The government...Great post. And I agree with lmoe. The government either needs to stay the course as a monopoly, or open it up into a free market. Everytime they sell a crown corp (ie. BC Tel, BC Gas) it becomes a corporate monopoly and the consumer (taxpayers) suffer.<br /><br />The LDB is one of the few branches of governement that actually MAKES money. I was told that this is why it's under a new Ministry virtually every year, to offset the books.<br /><br />As was pointed out by Harvey Oberfield, 9 months from an election is not a responsible time to be selling government assets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-826637739916486721.post-17732793735910904932012-07-14T13:36:07.060-07:002012-07-14T13:36:07.060-07:00That is why I believe this process needs to be sto...That is why I believe this process needs to be stopped, looked at and then made an election issue next March.<br />It seems obvious to many that the Liberals are trying to ram this through before being punted from officePaddy Treavorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16360223916204727525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-826637739916486721.post-65169772592542886042012-07-14T13:34:35.063-07:002012-07-14T13:34:35.063-07:00Well said! Couldn't agree moreWell said! Couldn't agree morePaddy Treavorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16360223916204727525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-826637739916486721.post-53464594940300440032012-07-14T13:34:03.895-07:002012-07-14T13:34:03.895-07:00Thanks for the sharp eye...Exel it isThanks for the sharp eye...Exel it isPaddy Treavorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16360223916204727525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-826637739916486721.post-12243432015743981822012-07-14T12:54:45.612-07:002012-07-14T12:54:45.612-07:00I think I wouldn't mind the converting of publ...I think I wouldn't mind the converting of public assets to private corporations if it wasn't always a matter of handing a government monopoly over to a corporate monopoly. There is no free market competition when at the end of the day we're still in a one store town. If the government wants to remove the stink of Socialism with a liberal application of the Spirit of Free Enterprise, then open it up to true competition. <br /><br />Take the entire thing apart and let anyone who can raise the funds, run a liquor warehouse/distribution centre in BC. Let the current private liquor stores act as their own importers and sell off the current government liquor stores to consortiums of employees or whoever can come up with the right price. Sure a company like Exel would be the big player but there would be nothing stopping the current smaller operators from setting up shop too and actually competing with the giants. <br /><br />As a government agency, theoretically there is an obligation to listen to the public. As a free market system, the consumer can vote with their feet and their dollars. With a private corporation holding the monopoly, we are, um, what's the word? Oh right...fucked.lmoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15400036212078528075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-826637739916486721.post-33736619281129962672012-07-14T12:35:41.133-07:002012-07-14T12:35:41.133-07:00is it Exel or Excel ?is it Exel or Excel ?cousindupreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12551995095386360954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-826637739916486721.post-8415643146262067832012-07-14T12:19:33.936-07:002012-07-14T12:19:33.936-07:00Clear example of the "goldrush mentality.&quo...Clear example of the "goldrush mentality." Everyone involved with the CDO/mortgage/international banking meltdown had it as well. You know that the party is about to end, so you figure "screw everyone else, I gotta get mine!" Just like the one percent trashed international markets, the liberals and their friends are out to make sure they all have theirs befor the NDP get in. I suspect that the NDP will be in worse shape next year, than Obama was in 2008 when he inherited a stripped out shell of an economy.Berniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17669383253389665728noreply@blogger.com